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Post meeting materials online

March 10, 2014

More than two years after New York state required groups subject to the Open Meetings Law to post meeting material on their websites, many government agencies in the Tri-Lakes area have not yet......

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OmarLittle

Mar-15-14 7:04 PM

I'm not the newspaper, Mick, so I don't know what your point is.

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mittymick

Mar-15-14 12:11 PM

"To be honest it's not as big a deal in places like the Adirondacks, where the amounts of money dealt with are much less and the small-town atmosphere and closer local media coverage of every little board meeting makes it a bit harder to hide things. This matters more in larger towns. "

LOL. This from a newspaper that severely restricts posts/comments? Hypocrisy at it's finest.

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OmarLittle

Mar-13-14 9:09 PM

Towns absolutely should do more to comply with the law than they are. I don't think scanning some documents onto a computer and uploading them onto a website is such a hugely burdensome expense. Especially nowadays, when so many of the documents come in digitized anyway; a lot of government bodies email the packets to the board members before the meetings rather than put them on paper, so what's so hard about putting them on the website too? And there's probably savings in cutting back on the number of FOIL requests. People should have easy access to the contracts, letters, supporting documents, etc.; just the agendas and resolutions often don't explain very much.

To be honest it's not as big a deal in places like the Adirondacks, where the amounts of money dealt with are much less and the small-town atmosphere and closer local media coverage of every little board meeting makes it a bit harder to hide things. This matters more in larger towns.

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PositivePat

Mar-13-14 4:50 PM

I love the way those in favor of the article cannot read the whole picture. The wording is there. What is practicable as determined by the agency, not the press, not the public but the agency. Then there is the last sentence,"An agency may, but is not required to expend additional monies to implement the provisions of the subdivision." No matter what side your on, these laws go either way, depending on who is reading them.

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luvADKs

Mar-13-14 11:48 AM

Disagree completely with ADE's effort to highlight this issue. It's cost our local munis do not need to incur.

The editorial is self serving and gratuitous.

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OsamaBinHidin

Mar-12-14 4:26 PM

Like many, we tend to rely on "The New Day Online" edition of the ADE- and searching for the word "debate" shows nothing related to Local VSL elections. Where do the candidates stand on "Open Meeting Laws?"

The "First Born" always submits the question, "Is not Oasis the best rock band in the UK since The Beatles," but it never gets answered. But he is an odd child -- now focused on those who drew "First Blood" -- DirComDev and ADE driving "The Story" on page 1.

We could care less -- but we do have a question for the GOP challengers - It has remained elusive for the incumbent Mayor of VSL for nearly 2 decades...

goo.gl/Nq4yUx

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OsamaBinHidin

Mar-12-14 3:21 PM

Today's violation of ADE space @ThefacebookWall has been reported to proper authority AKA

"Adult Supervision."

goo.gl/eV8nJw

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OsamaBinHidin

Mar-12-14 3:16 PM

wondering Mar-12-14 12:47 PM

re:"I don't think we'll have fewer lawyers any time soon...."

Earlier today, the ADE @ThefacebookWall had seemed to also offer "legal services."

goo.gl/AquKAV

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wondering

Mar-12-14 12:47 PM

I don't think we'll have fewer lawyers any time soon but you are getting your wish about labor since unions continue to shrink in numbers and influence. Incidentally union marginalization has coincided with shrinking wages and expanding executive compensation.

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wondering

Mar-12-14 12:46 PM

What constitutes "common sense" varies according to who you talk to. Do you mean labor that is willing to work hard for a wage that they can't live on?

I've known a few "real" Mormons. Some were good people despite the racism inherent in Mormonism. "You see some classes of the human family that are black, uncouth, un-comely, disagreeable and low in their habits, wild, and seemingly deprived of nearly all the blessings of the intelligence that is generally bestowed upon mankind." Brigham Young. I don't vote for or against someone according to their religious belief. I prefer to look at what their personal history reveals about their character. On that basis there was no way I could vote for Romney, or Obama either the second time around.

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wondering

Mar-11-14 9:06 PM

NO the twain shall meet when people realize right and left are just a scam to keep our eyes off the cup that hides the pea. Libs, conservatives, repubs, dems doesn't really matter, nearly all serve the corporations and the 1%.

What did someone say about the middle of the road? The only thing you find there are dead skunks.

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gothics

Mar-11-14 6:31 PM

Left is left and right is right, never the twain shall meet I guess.

I know many individuals (dozens and dozens) who are reasonable in their views. Not always skewed left or right. Maybe left or right on an issue or two, but not off the edge. In general they're middle of the road. centrists if you will.

Guess they just aren't motivated to comment on every issue blaming the other side, government, business, etc., at the top of their lungs. Wow, some crazy views out there, all struggling to support themselves with a googled fact or two that may or may not be salient to the discussion. Take a breath!

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wondering

Mar-11-14 5:25 PM

No, nationally it is about 11%. May be a bit higher in NYS but as far as Obama's election is concerned the number i gave is correct.

So you think the repubs are more concerned with preserving the constitution? Again, you must be kidding. Both the current and recent past presidents have been doing a good job of shredding the constitution. To be sure Obama is continuing the process but it didn't start with him.

I don't know that union members voted overwhelmingly for Obama but it wouldn't be surprising given Romney's blatant anti-labor stance. Unfortunately he has not shown himself to be a friend of the working man but neither would have Mitt.

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wondering

Mar-11-14 1:31 PM

To your last point, only 11% of workers are unionized so Obama didn't get much from them compared to what both he and Romney got from their corporate benefactors.

Read up on the history of unions and you'll see who the real thugs were and are.

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LakeClear

Mar-11-14 12:56 PM

More costs without benefit!

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Annie20

Mar-11-14 11:47 AM

I am glad that this is being made more public. A lot of entities have complied, and within some of the entities that have not, there are people trying to make it happen but they are being resisted. As a taxpayer, I should be able to know what is being discussed in meetings that I cannot attend due to work or other priorities.

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Townie

Mar-11-14 11:17 AM

This is rich, the 4th estate now wants our Towns, Villages and Counties to spend even more money on unfunded mandates. Guess who pays for municipalities to do this work, I do.

And for what? So "reporters" (oops, I mean writers) won't even have to leave their desks. Put down their doughnuts and actually do some reporting; forget investigative reporting. They can just jump online, see if there's anything interesting BEFORE they actually have to attend a meeting and report.

Nice try. I will support my municipality in continuing just as they are. I attend most meetings and I am alert for any shenanigans. To those I have elected, DO NOT incur the additional costs please!

To those I have not elected, get off your high horse!!

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wondering

Mar-10-14 4:51 PM

Career politutes?, yah hear ya on that one. Higher taxes yah largely due to corporate welfare but "thuggish labor" you must be kidding!!

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rockydog

Mar-10-14 1:25 PM

"If the agency in which a public body functions maintains a regularly and routinely updated website and utilizes a high speed internet connection, such records shall be posted on the website to the extent practicable as determined by the agency or the department, prior to the meeting."

to the extent practicable...Bam

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wondering

Mar-10-14 12:22 PM

I know you think the decision to not name those who are non-compliant is being courteous but it's actually disrespectful to those entities that have complied. An example of guilt by association.

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